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When Good People Do Bad Things

Is it possible for a good person to turn evil? Do you think you have an inner demon that could be triggered to make you rob a bank, steal from a neighbor or torture another human being?

Audience Experiments


Jason and Sheryl

Dr. Zimbardo
How will a woman react to the job of guarding the perpetrator with a taser?


"You're not only not going to push the button, you're telling him, ‘Run away, so I'm out of the conflict,'" Dr. Phil notes to Sheryl, the audience member in the previous experiment.

"Yeah," Sheryl says.

Dr. Phil informs everyone that Sheryl and Jason are spouses! "We separated them for the experiment, and they did not know the other was part of it, and they reacted in completely different ways," he says.

Sheryl is a youth pastor.

"So, y'all live in the same home, you're from the same community, you have some of the same background, same exposures, same religious beliefs " you fried him " twice," he says to Jason, "and you refused to do it," he says to Sheryl. Dr. Phil gives Sheryl credit for asking for a badge.

"I was so worried about having to cause him pain, I just could not do it," she says.

Dr. Phil asks her, if the bad guy came after her, could she then use the taser on him?

"Probably not," she says. "I think I probably would've given him my purse and said, ‘Run away.'" She says she's not surprised by her husband's reaction in the experiment. "He's a react quick kind of guy."

Dr. Phil asks Dr. Zimbardo, "Did you expect someone to tase the actor?"

"Oh, sure. We've done this in England. We did it 10 times, and half the people did exactly what he did " just gave it to him on the spot," he says.


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