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Little Boy Lost

Toni says she can’t stop grieving the loss of her son, who began transitioning into a female at age 11. What would you do if your little boy wanted to be a girl? The heated discussion continues.

Just a Phase?




Dr. Nicolosi agrees with Glenn. "I think Dr. Siegel, with all due respect, is simplifying the case with saying these are boys with brains of girls. It's not that simple. We work with parents who bring their children in like this, especially boys, and we work with parents to emphasize the masculine identity," he says.

"So, what is a parent to do?" Dr. Phil asks. "You're at home with your little child, they don't do what other little boys do " and I'm using a little boy as an example. It happens with girls too, but statistics say it's about five to one boys over girls who have this, but what is a parent to do at that point? Their question is, ‘Do we support his interest, or do we say, "No, no, no. You can't play with that. You must play with this"?'"

"We see certain patterns, very typical patterns, of an over-involved mother, where the mother and son have a symbiotic relationship," Dr. Nicolosi explains. "It's very close, their identities are merged, and the father is out of the picture, and the work that we're doing is to get the mother to back off, get the father more involved, get that boy to dis-identify with the mother and bond with the father, and in the bonding with the father, he develops that masculine identity."

"And I'm guessing, Dr. Angello, you disagree with this?" Dr. Phil asks.

"Yes, I do. Actually, what I've found to be the case is, in fact, the antithesis of what Dr. Nicolosi has described, and that is the difference between the differentiation and the fusion that some children experience," she says. "Meaning, if they are articulate enough, if they feel confident enough that they will be unconditionally loved no matter what, they will be able to express themselves, they will be able to say, ‘Mom, Dad, this is what I've been wrestling with for years. What can we do about it?'"

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