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(Original Air Date: 02/07/07) More than half a billion adults are overweight worldwide, but even more shocking is that millions of children are already on the road to obesity. Amy’s son, Harrison, is only 7 years old, but already weighs 152 pounds. She says her husband, Tim, has no problem with their son’s size. He feeds the boy cookies, chips and ice cream, and even sneaks sugary snacks into his room at night. Amy fears that they’re killing their son with food. Is Tim the only one to blame for Harrison’s weight problem? World-renowned pediatrician Dr. Jim Sears shares his thoughts. Then, Carla wrote to Dr. Phil because her 4-year-old grandson, Logan, is already 30 pounds overweight. She says he has terrible eating habits and even breaks into the cupboard to sneak junk food. Carla wants to help him but says she can’t discuss the problem with her daughter, Jennifer, without an argument. Can Carla and Jennifer stop fighting long enough to start Logan on the path to weight loss? Plus, when Josh was on the show four years ago, he was 4 years old, 155 pounds and could barely walk. Dr. Phil worried that the little boy wouldn’t live to see another year. Is Josh still in jeopardy? Talk about the show here.

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June 22, 2007, 7:07 am CDT

Obesity, How Sad

This has been such a sore subject for me, especially in the last several months.  My family and I went to a water park not to long ago and there were so many obese people there.  Men, women and children.  It was just sad to watch these people struggle just to move.  I don't understand how people can have such disrespect for themselves and their children.  I read one post on this board and the person said "I try to eat moderately".  I've heard friends who are over weight say that before and then when you watch what they actually consume throughout the day  "moderate" is not a word to even begin to discribe what has been eaten.  Sure, the meals that they eat are not that big and really not that bad for you.  It's the sugared soda or the candy bar or bag of chips or the ice cream cone that is eaten between meals that's the killer.  I also honestly believe that people do not truly understand what is healthy food any more.  Just because a prepackaged food says healthy or low fat or diet that does not make it good for you.  Junk food is NOT a food group.  Junk food is a treat and has anyone ever heard the saying "a little goes a long way".  This does not mean a little every meal or every hour.  This means maybe once a week or longer between treats.  And honestly, what ever happened to kids playing.  Shut the stupid TV, video games and computer off and go outside and play.  As my parents use to call it "go blow some stink off of you".  I think all adults and children should do this.  Get off your backsides and move.  My husband and I love to garage sale.  This means that we drive through many different neighborhoods.  We comment often on the fact that you just don't see kids outside playing anymore.  How terrible for everyone.  I know here comes the comments about how Johnny and Susy play soccor or go to dance class or whatever else they are into.  My kids are in sports too.  Have you stopped recently to look at how many fat kids are on the team.  They make sure that they move as little as possible and exert as little energy as possible.  It's not saying much for the parents either as they sit on the sidelines shoving junk into their mouths.  I'm no exception.  I like my sunflower seeds and jawbreakers during a baseball game and my 2 bottles of water.  The difference is that I'm not overweight and I exercise and these are my treats and I only have them during the season.  Plus I only consume about 6 small jaw breakers and 1/2 oz of seeds a game.  That's moderation.  I just don't get it and I look around me and try to understand it.  When I was a kid in the 70s we played from sun up to sun down.  We weren't allowed to sit in front of a TV all day nor did our parents.  It is just so so so sad that I can hardly stand it anymore and people want a quick fix to their weight problems because they are lazy.  I just want to scream some days....GET OFF YOUR ASS AND DO SOMETHING.  I don't suppose it would help any but that's how I feel.
 
June 22, 2007, 8:38 am CDT

proud grandmother of a beautiful little boy

I was really taken back by Carla's tearful comment that Dr Phil has never been a grandparent so he couldn't  possibly understand how hard it is to turn her grandchild down when he cried for Twinkies. Carla, you give grandparents a bad name. I would never and I mean NEVER do anything that would hurt my grandchild, no mater how much he begged for it. Kids are quite good at figuring out how to get what they want, whether it is good for them or not.  I told my daughter shortly after my grandson was born that I would never give him candy. I have seen so many grandparents stuffing their grandchildren full of unhealthy stuff  in what looks like an attempt to have a fun relationship. I want my grandson to have fun with me, not fun because of what I buy him, particularly things that he might not get at home. I don't buy him toys or other things when he is with me either. We go in stores and I observe what he likes and buy it later if I decide that it is a good choice for him. Don't get me wrong, I buy him a lot of things but using some common sense and not giving him a sense of entitlement. He is my best buddy. There is nothing quite as sweet as the way he responds when I walk in the door. He thinks that I am hilarious and that makes me want to play with him all the more. He is sweet enough without me giving him sweets. And my daughter and son-in-law totally trust me. He gets a few sweets at home, for birthdays and other occations. A relationship should be based on love, not what we give kids to get their affection. By the way, I am no health food nut. I love my sweets and have a weight problem that I am constantly working on. I love the sweets way too much but I don't want my grandchild to share my issues with sweets or with weight.
 
June 22, 2007, 8:43 am CDT

06/21 Little Boys, Big Weight Problems

My son was always tall for his age so I used that as an excuse to justify his extra pounds. Finally when his doctor told me he was at risk with his health I finally changed his diet. Please if your child is heavy cut out the soda and the junk/fast food. I did and the pounds melted off of my son. Just one soda equates to 10 teaspoons of cane sugar. Would you sit there and feed your child sugar right out of the bag? I am teaching my son that it's ok to love food, but awareness of whats healthy. I am proud to say that just  making some small changes, he has lost three pant sizes and his activity level has risen.  When we have children it becomes our job to raise them into happy healhty functioning adults.
 
June 22, 2007, 9:09 am CDT

Weight problem may not be a choice...

Quote From: koolaidemom

This has been such a sore subject for me, especially in the last several months.  My family and I went to a water park not to long ago and there were so many obese people there.  Men, women and children.  It was just sad to watch these people struggle just to move.  I don't understand how people can have such disrespect for themselves and their children.  I read one post on this board and the person said "I try to eat moderately".  I've heard friends who are over weight say that before and then when you watch what they actually consume throughout the day  "moderate" is not a word to even begin to discribe what has been eaten.  Sure, the meals that they eat are not that big and really not that bad for you.  It's the sugared soda or the candy bar or bag of chips or the ice cream cone that is eaten between meals that's the killer.  I also honestly believe that people do not truly understand what is healthy food any more.  Just because a prepackaged food says healthy or low fat or diet that does not make it good for you.  Junk food is NOT a food group.  Junk food is a treat and has anyone ever heard the saying "a little goes a long way".  This does not mean a little every meal or every hour.  This means maybe once a week or longer between treats.  And honestly, what ever happened to kids playing.  Shut the stupid TV, video games and computer off and go outside and play.  As my parents use to call it "go blow some stink off of you".  I think all adults and children should do this.  Get off your backsides and move.  My husband and I love to garage sale.  This means that we drive through many different neighborhoods.  We comment often on the fact that you just don't see kids outside playing anymore.  How terrible for everyone.  I know here comes the comments about how Johnny and Susy play soccor or go to dance class or whatever else they are into.  My kids are in sports too.  Have you stopped recently to look at how many fat kids are on the team.  They make sure that they move as little as possible and exert as little energy as possible.  It's not saying much for the parents either as they sit on the sidelines shoving junk into their mouths.  I'm no exception.  I like my sunflower seeds and jawbreakers during a baseball game and my 2 bottles of water.  The difference is that I'm not overweight and I exercise and these are my treats and I only have them during the season.  Plus I only consume about 6 small jaw breakers and 1/2 oz of seeds a game.  That's moderation.  I just don't get it and I look around me and try to understand it.  When I was a kid in the 70s we played from sun up to sun down.  We weren't allowed to sit in front of a TV all day nor did our parents.  It is just so so so sad that I can hardly stand it anymore and people want a quick fix to their weight problems because they are lazy.  I just want to scream some days....GET OFF YOUR ASS AND DO SOMETHING.  I don't suppose it would help any but that's how I feel.

 

It is sad to see overweight children.  It is difficult for them

to run, jump, play etc...They are not all "lazy" and should not be told

"get off their ass".  I find it hard to believe that ALL of these

children watch TV ALL day and do nothing else.  Each child

has a different metabolism,' that may contribute.

                                 OR

 Maybe their parents actually have them running everywhere-

SOCCER (beacause there may be a national soccer star in

the making!).  Families on the run tend to feed their kids

"quick-fix" meals with a lot of sodium - VERY BAD for

blood pressure, cholesterol, heart rate etc...

What EVER happened to actually cooking these children

healthy meals with no preservatives, and YES letting

them play outside and getting some fresh air.  Some

parents have absolutely NO routine for these poor

children, they tire them out without feeding them.

At this point, any food or relaxation is actually a TREAT

to these poor children...and certainly not (high sodium

bird seeds)...

 

 

  

 
June 22, 2007, 9:11 am CDT

Why are you going to a water park? To judge others around you or to have fun?

Quote From: koolaidemom

This has been such a sore subject for me, especially in the last several months.  My family and I went to a water park not to long ago and there were so many obese people there.  Men, women and children.  It was just sad to watch these people struggle just to move.  I don't understand how people can have such disrespect for themselves and their children.  I read one post on this board and the person said "I try to eat moderately".  I've heard friends who are over weight say that before and then when you watch what they actually consume throughout the day  "moderate" is not a word to even begin to discribe what has been eaten.  Sure, the meals that they eat are not that big and really not that bad for you.  It's the sugared soda or the candy bar or bag of chips or the ice cream cone that is eaten between meals that's the killer.  I also honestly believe that people do not truly understand what is healthy food any more.  Just because a prepackaged food says healthy or low fat or diet that does not make it good for you.  Junk food is NOT a food group.  Junk food is a treat and has anyone ever heard the saying "a little goes a long way".  This does not mean a little every meal or every hour.  This means maybe once a week or longer between treats.  And honestly, what ever happened to kids playing.  Shut the stupid TV, video games and computer off and go outside and play.  As my parents use to call it "go blow some stink off of you".  I think all adults and children should do this.  Get off your backsides and move.  My husband and I love to garage sale.  This means that we drive through many different neighborhoods.  We comment often on the fact that you just don't see kids outside playing anymore.  How terrible for everyone.  I know here comes the comments about how Johnny and Susy play soccor or go to dance class or whatever else they are into.  My kids are in sports too.  Have you stopped recently to look at how many fat kids are on the team.  They make sure that they move as little as possible and exert as little energy as possible.  It's not saying much for the parents either as they sit on the sidelines shoving junk into their mouths.  I'm no exception.  I like my sunflower seeds and jawbreakers during a baseball game and my 2 bottles of water.  The difference is that I'm not overweight and I exercise and these are my treats and I only have them during the season.  Plus I only consume about 6 small jaw breakers and 1/2 oz of seeds a game.  That's moderation.  I just don't get it and I look around me and try to understand it.  When I was a kid in the 70s we played from sun up to sun down.  We weren't allowed to sit in front of a TV all day nor did our parents.  It is just so so so sad that I can hardly stand it anymore and people want a quick fix to their weight problems because they are lazy.  I just want to scream some days....GET OFF YOUR ASS AND DO SOMETHING.  I don't suppose it would help any but that's how I feel.
 
June 22, 2007, 9:57 am CDT

06/21 Little Boys, Big Weight Problems

Quote From: mperryman

Hi,

 

My 10 year old daughter is slightly overweight and I am not sure why??  I have two other children and they all eat the same things yet my oldest is the only one with a weight problem.  In fact my son is only 15 months younger than my daughter and weighs at least 15 punds less than she does.  She has recenlty been coming home from school very upset about being teased at school and being called fat by other children.  It breaks my heart to know that she is being teased about it and I am not sure what to do.  I hate to have to put her on a diet at such a young age but at this point I believe I am going to have to.  I think it is just sad that children so young are having to worry about weight issues.  I dont think I ever even thought about my weight as a child, at least not until puberty hit.  Any advice from anyone with the same issues at home??

The other children's metabolism is probably just a bit higher and can get away with more. I was about that age when I started to put on weight, 9 years old. I was also starting to get teased and getting to be self conscious. I loved swimming and was pretty good so my mom signed me up for the swim team at the local Y. Within a year, I didn't lose weight nor did I gain, but grew 3 inches and was slim again.

 

My suggestion would be to not put your daughter on a diet, find some activity she likes and sign her up in some regular program (4-5 days a week), and continue to feed her healthy food. If you do have some junk around I would try to reduce that, the slimmer kids don't need it either and would benefit from healthier choices too.

 

 
June 22, 2007, 10:35 am CDT

MOST IMPORTANT-WATCH HER SODIUM (DRESSINGS, GRAVIES AND SAUCES...)

Quote From: mperryman

Hi,

 

My 10 year old daughter is slightly overweight and I am not sure why??  I have two other children and they all eat the same things yet my oldest is the only one with a weight problem.  In fact my son is only 15 months younger than my daughter and weighs at least 15 punds less than she does.  She has recenlty been coming home from school very upset about being teased at school and being called fat by other children.  It breaks my heart to know that she is being teased about it and I am not sure what to do.  I hate to have to put her on a diet at such a young age but at this point I believe I am going to have to.  I think it is just sad that children so young are having to worry about weight issues.  I dont think I ever even thought about my weight as a child, at least not until puberty hit.  Any advice from anyone with the same issues at home??

No one really pays attention to high sodium items.

The worry about sugar and calories...

 

I was always a good weight while eating healthy home-cooked meals.

 

Then, I started eating out with my friends (fast food), or at their house,

where their mother served "stove top stuffing".  For some reason, I really

liked having soup a lot (Lipton-incredibly high sodium!  An entire day's worth).

I liked ham, pickles, olives, salad with dressing (not healthy, like having

water with salt pured into it).  Needless to say, I starting gaining weight

quickly.

 

Years later, I actually lost 35 pounds JUST from cutting down "Sodium" (different

from salt).  I had a dish of Vanilla ice cream almost every night, too.

I would have some kind of fish or meat (no heavy sauces or gravies) with potato

and vegetables.  Then, have my dairy (ice cream or yogurt)

 

It doesn't have to be difficult it you're creative.  Make French Bread Pizza with

Tomotoes instead of Spaghetti Sauce and Mozzarella Cheese (very healthy).

 

If you should make canned soup, EMPTY some of the broth, add water, instead. 

 

THE WEIGHT JUST KEPT DROPPING.  MY DOCTOR TOLD ME THAT PEOPLE

EAT TOO MUCH SODIUM.  WHEN YOU DRINK SOME WATER, THE SODIUM

TURNS INTO A GEL AND BLOATS US.  IF WE DRINK MORE, WE'RE MORE

BLOATED.  WE NEED TO DRINK ENOUGH WATER TO ACTUALLY LIQUIFY

THAT SODIUM SO IT EVENTUALLY LEAVES OUR SYSTEM.  BUT BEFORE

THAT POINT, WE WALK AROUND FEELING OVERWEIGHT AND UNCOMFORTABLE.

 

I CONTINUED TO LOSE WEIGHT AND I AM AT A GOOD WEIGHT, AGAIN. 

 

IT MAY TAKE A LITTLE TIME AND CREATIVITY, BUT WILL BE WELL WORTH IT... 

 

HOPE THIS HELPS,

GOOD LUCK!  

 

I

 
June 22, 2007, 10:37 am CDT

MOST IMPORTANT-WATCH HER SODIUM (DRESSINGS, GRAVIES AND SAUCES...)

Quote From: mperryman

Hi,

 

My 10 year old daughter is slightly overweight and I am not sure why??  I have two other children and they all eat the same things yet my oldest is the only one with a weight problem.  In fact my son is only 15 months younger than my daughter and weighs at least 15 punds less than she does.  She has recenlty been coming home from school very upset about being teased at school and being called fat by other children.  It breaks my heart to know that she is being teased about it and I am not sure what to do.  I hate to have to put her on a diet at such a young age but at this point I believe I am going to have to.  I think it is just sad that children so young are having to worry about weight issues.  I dont think I ever even thought about my weight as a child, at least not until puberty hit.  Any advice from anyone with the same issues at home??

No one really pays attention to high sodium items.

The worry about sugar and calories...

 

I was always a good weight while eating healthy home-cooked meals.

 

Then, I started eating out with my friends (fast food), or at their house,

where their mother served "stove top stuffing".  For some reason, I really

liked having soup a lot (Lipton-incredibly high sodium!  An entire day's worth).

I liked ham, pickles, olives, salad with dressing (not healthy, like having

water with salt pured into it).  Needless to say, I starting gaining weight

quickly.

 

Years later, I actually lost 35 pounds JUST from cutting down "Sodium" (different

from salt).  I had a dish of Vanilla ice cream almost every night, too.

I would have some kind of fish or meat (no heavy sauces or gravies) with potato

and vegetables.  Then, have my dairy (ice cream or yogurt)

 

It doesn't have to be difficult it you're creative.  Make French Bread Pizza with

Tomotoes instead of Spaghetti Sauce and Mozzarella Cheese (very healthy).

 

If you should make canned soup, EMPTY some of the broth, add water, instead. 

 

THE WEIGHT JUST KEPT DROPPING.  MY DOCTOR TOLD ME THAT PEOPLE

EAT TOO MUCH SODIUM.  WHEN YOU DRINK SOME WATER, THE SODIUM

TURNS INTO A GEL AND BLOATS US.  IF WE DRINK MORE, WE'RE MORE

BLOATED.  WE NEED TO DRINK ENOUGH WATER TO ACTUALLY LIQUIFY

THAT SODIUM SO IT EVENTUALLY LEAVES OUR SYSTEM.  BUT BEFORE

THAT POINT, WE WALK AROUND FEELING OVERWEIGHT AND UNCOMFORTABLE.

 

I CONTINUED TO LOSE WEIGHT AND I AM AT A GOOD WEIGHT, AGAIN. 

 

IT MAY TAKE A LITTLE TIME AND CREATIVITY, BUT WILL BE WELL WORTH IT... 

 

HOPE THIS HELPS,

GOOD LUCK!  

 

I

 
June 22, 2007, 11:51 am CDT

Re: the ANGRY person

Quote From: flthomcat

Bull poop! Normal kids CAN overeat that much when allowed to. Our son, a non-fat child, would eat candy and junk food until it came out his ears IF WE ALLOWED HIM TOO.

 

Hormone problems are but a TINY FRACTION OF A PERCENT when it comes to obesity in both adults and children. I suggest you do your research.

 

You're not helping anybody when you make excuses for the 99% of parents (of obese kids) who got their unhealthy kids to the point they're at now. They are ABUSING their children.

 

You are obviously not fat and never have been. When a stomach is stretched from over-eating, it will continue feeling unsatisfied. Most people don't eat  because they're "hungry." They eat for other reasons like stress, boredom, etc. When I gained lots of weight, I kept eating MORE and MORE because I was depressed about my looks/health. I was NOT eating because I was hungry. Obese kids are not eating because they are hungry; they don't even know what it is to go without and feel actual hunger.

 

The medical community only dropped the ball when it failed to tell parents the bad news...that THEY are the ones killing their own children. They're too afraid to upset parents so they enable these parents in the harming of children. It's a disgrace and you are SO FAR OFF ON YOUR POST that it's sad.

WOW, you have a lot of anger, I see no reason to slam me for my opinion.

 

And you're wrong, I've been battling my weight since I was 4 years old.  I am morbidly obese, but have lost 14 pounds in the 5 weeks simply by controlling my blood sugar, no dieting at all.

Many people who are insulin resistant and/or have hyperinsulinemia release too much insulin when they consume carbs in any form.  Insulin can make you fat all by itself, and is also the hormone that stimulates hunger, causing a vicious circle of weight gain.

 

I have done my research.  I have checked out the scientific studies on insulin and weight gain.  Unfortunately, most doctors will not check insulin response; they automatically assume the person is simply a glutton and needs to cut back.  Sometimes they are gluttonous but nobody asks why!  Stimulating the hunger hormone will cause overeating and thereby stomach stretching.   (But a few days on a low carb diet and smaller portions can shrink the stomach amazingly fast.)

 

My posts are reaching out to those who may have a problem their doctor has not recognized or even checked for. 

Now that my blood sugar and insulin are under control, I can eat smaller meals, feel satisfied, and am not hungry all the time.

 

To those who are open-minded, please look into insulin resistance and hyperinsulinemia, as a possible solution to your (or your child's) problem.  As I stated before, it won't apply to everyone, but to find out if it might help you, there is a free online quiz at CarbohydrateAddicts.com.

 

To the angry people, we all have our issues, both physical and emotional.  Here's hoping you find the right answers for you.  

 
June 22, 2007, 12:29 pm CDT

I KNOW!!!!SO MANY ANGRY AND JUDGMENTAL PEOPLE...POOR KIDS, HOPE THEY NEVER EVER HAVE DEAL WITH PEOPLE LIKE THIS...

Quote From: mwcoffman

I have been sitting here reading all of the messages on the discussion board and I don't know what to think!!!  I am absolutely astounded by some of the remarks that people have written on here!  First of all, It sounds to me like over half of the people on here are being really really judgmental, second you don't know how people live or what they've been going through, so who are you to judge?  I guarantee half of the people on here don't even have kids, So they have no idea!  They just see a chubby little kid in the store with his mother, or out eating with his parents, etc.......and right off the bat they think "God That kid is too big so automatically you think the parents are irresponsible and not caring for their own child!  Let me tell you my story, I got pregnant when I was 18 and my little girl was born a normal healthy child weighing in at 8lbs 3oz., she had problems when she was born with breathing but her pediatrician said it would go away with age so we went on with our lives.  When she was about a year old I took her to a different doctor and he said she has asthma, put her on singular, asmacort,a breathing machine and STEROIDS!!!!!  The doctor told me when he prescribed them to her that her appetite would increase but steroids is the only thing that will calm down the asthma attacks!!!  Every since then she has did fairly well with her asthma only having to take the Steroids when she has a flare up, she is now 3 and weighs 63 lbs.  She hardly eats, I cook healthy every night and we have no junk food in our house!!!!!!  She is very active, cheerful and happy!!!!!!  Her babysitter comes to our house and our backyard is full of toys they stay outside all the time and when I get home she helps me cook supper and then we go outside and water the flowers and so on, so she is very very active!!  My whole point of this is instead of getting on here and saying DCS should take the over-weight kids away and put them in a healthy environment , know the facts before you take it that far!!!!!  I'm not saying that every obese child has a medical condition such as my little girl because they don't and I do agree parents should stand up and be parents to their children instead of trying to be their best friend, tell them what to eat and what they shouldn't eat,get more involved in their child's physical activity and so on. I'm going to be honest, I've read so many people on her say the DCS should get the children and that makes me furious.........They take them if you don't feed them and they take them if you feed them too much????  That's crazy!!!  Maybe help them to get on the right track such as evaluations every so often, weighing the child in regularly and if that doesn't help in an X about of time then take greater steps!!!!  But the point is you can't judge the child or the parents for that fact about the child looking a little bit too chubby when you just see them out because you have no idea what's going on in their life and maybe how hard the parent is working to keep them healthy!!! I do agree with alot of things that people are saying such as quit eating fast food so much and only let them watch tv and play video games for so long. I mean I don't want my precious little girl going to school and the other kids making fun of her, I love her more than anything and if I could take those few pounds off of her believe me I would!   I just hope that some of you will think about my little girl and how her father and I do choose a healthy living but theres not much we can do about it until we can get rid of her medical condition or at least cut out the steroids!!! 
 
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