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Topic : 06/13 Dr. Phil Scam, Part 1

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Created on : Friday, November 03, 2006, 01:02:13 pm
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(Original Air Date: 11/9/06) You hear about scams all the time -- e-mails and voicemail messages claiming you’ve won valuable prizes. But Dr. Phil is outraged by what some con artists are doing to him, his family and his viewers. A group of scammers has been baiting unsuspecting viewers with a phony 800-number, then taking their money in exchange for phone therapy sessions with Dr. Phil and Robin. These bogus Dr. Phil staffers were asking for anywhere from $375 to $1,000 for a consultation. One viewer, Renee, fell prey to their tricks. She wrote to Dr. Phil for advice to save her marriage, but ended up in the middle of a major con job. Then, Robin makes a call to the scammers. It’s a conversation you don’t want to miss! Plus, find out what happens when Dr. Phil sends private investigator Harold Copus to set up a sting to ask some tough questions! Join the discussion.

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November 8, 2006, 10:35 am CST

I wanted to comment on how rude people are

Quote From: hellokitty86

I cannot wait to see this. From the previews Dr. Phil looked so angry, rightfully so! How can people try to scam other innocent people for their own personal gain!??! Bless these people who have been scammed, and punish the scammers in the most harmful way. I guess we will see what happens..

People today are so rude. Whatever happened to manner and respect. I work at a call center and let me tell you I get abused daily by people calling in to place catalog orders. Many of them think that I work there because I am stupid. I am working on my college degree in political science with a minor in community studies. I live in a very small town and the call center of the major employers. I am so tired of rude people cussing me out because items are not in stock or their order is shipped to wrong address. Dr Phil I don't know if you have ever done a show about working in a call center. You should I think people may have a little more respect for the person on the other end of the phone.

November 8, 2006, 11:42 pm CST

Just Sickening!

Quote From: kedenn

 Am I ever glad to see this topic.  I have wanted to tell someone about this for so long, but my mother-in-law (using MIL for short) was so ashamed that she did not want the small town she lives in to know.  Here is her story the best that I can relay it:

After shopping at a local Wal-Mart 20 miles from her home, she returned to her car at which time a woman jumped in the passenger side door and said she had found some money, approximately $100,000 and wanted to know if my MIL  would share it with her.  Of course, my MIL told her "no" that she did not want any part of it.  After talking for a while, the woman told her that she needed to meet with a lawyer across the street and want MIL to take her over there in the car.  MIL took her over to this what she was told was the lawyer's office.  The scammer took her around the back way and had MIL park on the west side of the building.  The building ends up being Cracker Barrell and MIL never realized that until a week later when she took us to the "lawyer's office."  The scammer asked MIL to wait in the car and she would be right back.  She waited, as ordered, and upon the scammer's return, had MIL take her back to Wal-Mart, had MIL give her her address and phone number, and left.  MIL told us, her son and myself, of the incident several days later, and we both warned her not to participate in any phone conversation with a stranger nor answer the door to any stranger.

One month later, there was a knock on her country home's carport door.  She looked out to see three people; a black male, white male, and white female.  They flashed badges at her saying they were the FBI investigating a scam that happened at the Wal-Mart in the local town where she had shopped.  The white male and female forced themselves into the house and the black male returned to the van.  They convinced her that they were legal and not to fear.  Even had her sign a paper saying she would cooperate.  They spent two days brain-washing her saying they needed her to check money out of her checking, savings, and any other accounts to test the money to see if it had anything to do with the scam.  She should have called us, but they warned her not to call us or anyone as it would harm the investigation.

On Day 2, they showed up at her house and went to four of her banks where she had two checking accounts and two savings accounts with CD's in them.  Upon talking with the bank employees later that afternoon, they said they thought it was strange that MIL would be in there asking for money, but gave it to her anyway without questions other than one of the clerks said she would escort her to the car for safety.  MIL refused the help.  After MIL got the money, she met the black male behind a convenience store and gave him the money.  He told her the other two had asked him to meet her and get the money'; that they were not able to get there in time.  Shortly after giving him the money, the white female showed up and got in the driver's seat of MIL's car.  She started taking MIL home and got about 15 miles down the road at which time she told MIL that the men in the van were flashing their lights at them and she needed to see what they needed.   She pulled over, went back to the van, returned to MIL's car and put a manilla envelope in the glove box.  Scammer lady told her not to open the envelope until 1:00 p.m.  MIL returned home and waited until 1:00 to open the glove box.  At that time, she found napkins in the envelope and realized she had been scammed. 

MIL called us immediately hollering and crying saying "I've been had."  We rushed down to the little town, first calling the Sheriff's office as well as the local Police.  When we got there 1-1/2 hours later, the Sheriff was there talking to her.  The Sheriff's office tried to get fingerprints, but to no avail.  They were very clever.   Bless her heart, she was scared to death. 

After the Sheriff's investigation, the FBI was called who has done very little to help with the whole ordeal.  I've called them several times, but to no avail.  They came out I believe the next day and also tried to lift some fingerprints.  Nothing showed up from the reports though.  They did do some investigation such as obtaining videos from the convenience store, from a Burger King, where the lady had driven by to get a hamburger with MIL in the car, and even at the local Kentucky Chicken drive through.  They did, however, come to her house on two occasions wanting her to identify the woman and black man.  She identified the black man and that is the last we have heard from them.  It has been well over one year since we have been informed of any new developments and believe me, I have called several times leaving messages, but nobody will return my messages. 

MIL is so embarrassed about the whole incident saying why was she so stupid, and why didn't she call us.  Oh, my goodness, if she had called us, we might could have been there with the police and caught the sorry idiots. 

Just wanted to share this with you.  Feels good to finally get to tell someone that it seems makes a difference.  Of course, our family knows, but very few people outside know anything about it.

I was horrified as I read this story! I'm glad Dr.Phil is starting to crack down on scammers....someone sure needs to. He did a show about internet scams a few months ago, and now he's doing this new one. Unfortunately stories like this one arent uncommon. That's how these con men & women work. They prey upon the kind, the elderly, the needy, the vulnerable souls out there in the world. It really is unfortuante bc it really adds to our paranoia as a society, & someday soon we will all just be a bunch of angry people who don't reach out and help others out of fear. To this poster, I am very sorry for the pain your ''MIL'' had to endure. I do hope however that she realizes now that she can not give her personal information to strangers. I am in no way saying that this is her fault, I simply mean that as unfortunate as her sitaution was, it really could have been alot worse. There are some sick, greedy, and dangerous people in this world. God Bless her and your family.
November 9, 2006, 3:02 am CST

so gullible

 I'm quite amazed at how gullible people can be.  Why would you send money over the phone to someone you do not know?  And do you really think Dr. Phil has time to answer everyone's call? Come on people! Don't be so stupid.
I also hope these scammers are found and arrested.
November 9, 2006, 5:02 am CST

11/09 Dr. Phil Scam, Part 1

Quote From: brendi_kay

 I'm curious as to how the scammers knew that Renee was even contacting Dr. Phil about her personal problems - how did they know her private information (phone number, etc.) as to even contact her???
 Dr. Phil is right to confront this - this type of situation could definitely affect how the public view the integrity of his show, of him. I personally believe in Dr. Phil and that he'd never, ever tolerate this means of conduct....that he is perfectly within his rights to face this, demand the truth and insist on the scammers to desist!
I agree with you totally....
November 9, 2006, 6:07 am CST

11/09 Dr. Phil Scam, Part 1

Quote From: mommykitty

People get taken advantage of every day now.  As of this point in my life, I am 33, I feel exactly the same!!  Adolescents are disrespectful, lazy, and spoiled. Adults are snippy and rude, and sometimes downright UGLY!! No one wants to take responsibility for their actions anymore, everything is either excused or fought about- never accepted.  This world is much more different now than it was even when I was in high school.  I take precautions to ensure mine and my family safety, sometimes over-the-top measures. It is better to be safe than sorry.  It is a shame that we feel a prisioner to our own society in which we created.  Only the sweet Lord can provide us peace and comfort.

I love and respect Dr. Phil.  I hope when he does catch these pitiful, obviously 0-Life people, he throws it to them.  GO DR. PHIL!!!!!

I really don't think there are any more con artists in the world now than there ever were.  Why do you think there are so many snake-oil salesmen and posers in old novels (ever read Mark Twain?)?  It's just that they have different methods now.  Luckily, we also have different methods of finding them, proving that they're scam artists, and prosecuting them than we did in the past.




I work south of that part of Houston--I've driven by that psychic shop zillions of times.  Ha ha.  You never know.

November 9, 2006, 6:19 am CST

can't quite imagine falling for a scam like this but.......

I am not the kind of person to fall for a scam like this but I can understand how it could happen to some people. The Dr Phil Show itself makes it seem like Dr Phil and Robin are accessable to the public. In reality, there must be thousands of people who call or write the show, trying to have a conversation with Dr Phil or Robin. I am one of those people. Several weeks ago, I wrote to Robin, using the form on the website. I believe that I filled out the form correctly but I have never received any kind of response including a receipt that my email was received. I did not really expect to hear directly from Robin (okay, maybe I was hoping) but I did expect to have some kind of response that my email was received by the staff. This also happened a few years ago when I submitted an email to the Oprah show. I never heard anything so I never knew if my email was received. It seems like it would be fairly easy to have a system that gave a return receipt saying that the email had been received and was being reviewed by a staff member. Then it could say that not all emails would receive an actual response. There could also be a telephone number and/or address listed on the website so that people would know how to contact the show. Maybe these suggestions would help to eliminate the scammers ability to fool people in need.
November 9, 2006, 6:24 am CST


I cannot believe that there are people out there that would take advantage of people like that and not have one ounce of guilt.  I couldnt do it. All I can say is Karma is a B**** and they will get there's .....looks like Dr. Phil is the
November 9, 2006, 6:48 am CST

why am i so shallow

 Hello!  Who is the guy in the blue plaid shirt.  So incredibly cute!  And, this show is quite exciting!
November 9, 2006, 7:47 am CST

Think Before Speaking

Quote From: love2help

 I'm quite amazed at how gullible people can be.  Why would you send money over the phone to someone you do not know?  And do you really think Dr. Phil has time to answer everyone's call? Come on people! Don't be so stupid.
I also hope these scammers are found and arrested.
Yes, Dr. Phil is a very busy man but calling people stupid, come on. I'm very embarassed for YOU !!!
November 9, 2006, 8:15 am CST

A word of advice

Quote From: julanias

I agree with you totally....

I have actually worked for a socalled PHONE ROOM!  These workers are guiltless wonders yet for this particular program they did get what they were promised.  I delivered and picked up checks from these folks daily.  That was 15 years ago and it has gotten more brazzen over the years.

I now have a neighbor who gets mailers with applications to win thousands to millions of dollars. These mailers ask her to send in money to cover some office cost or entry fee and she sends it in. The easiest marks are retired or widowed women who recieve a monthly check from the government.  These women are financially set and have it spare most of the time.  I live in Reno and alot of women figure it's going to get spent anyway and in thirty days they will have more.  I have been asked to assist in telling these vultures to leave her alone yet weekly she gets request in the mail or over the phone.

You ask how these scams get the contact information?  In the past those that made a positive contact would save these names and would use them at other phone rooms or sell them as "TAPS".  Now they use computer virus' to  steal the number or even your bank may sell this information. They will never admit to it and it's impossible to prove yet every time you get a call that number had to come from somewhere.  Then there is the age old phone book that they use to break in new hires or just to see who's guillible this week. This is called cold calling and if you are convincing enough on the phone then you may sell one or two calls an hour.  This is a tough buisness and all many organizations such a Police and Fire Depts. use these phone rooms to add to thier retirement or widows benifits. For each sale a percentage , usually small goes to the organization.  The rest pays for the merchandise and labor.  Yet the owner who sets it up sits to gain thousands and then moves on to another area. From one phone room thousands are called  weekly and they must be making money because they are always back next year.  As I said use to it has been over 10 years since then and I'm sure it will continue another 100. The sad thing is for every phone scam Dr. Phil finds and eradicates two more will pop up somewhere else. This show will probably give some idiot the idea he can do this and not get caught.  GO GET'M DOC

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